General Michael Flynn discusses the Middle East & Foreign Policy with Joe Hoft

General Michael Flynn joins Joe Hoft and delivers one of his most powerful interviews ever. General Flynn shares insights into the Middle East, China, BRICs, and more

Joe Hoft: There’s nobody better to help kind of unwind all the madness that’s going on in this world and our special guest today. It’s a pleasure and an honor to introduce you to you all. General Michael Flynn. General, welcome to the Joe Hoft Show.

General Michael Flynn: Thank you, Joe. And appreciate what you continue to do, what the Gateway Pundit continues to do, for this country. You know, I keep telling people that we continue. We’ve got to have to fight for the truth to be exposed. It will be exposed, and it has to be fought for.

And that’s really what I think you have represented in the Gateway Pundit.

Joe Hoft: But, thank you so much. Sure. That’s just such an honor. And I’ve had the pleasure of seeing you at some of these events recently, with the Clay Clark in Miami in Las Vegas and a Lindell’s event. So it’s always a pleasure to see you and you’re so highly respected by so many people.

So a real honor to have you here today. We’re really happy to have you. Lots going on. We’ve got this world that’s just upside down in every way it seems, and you wrote that the other day in a piece that was, I think, magnificent to tell you the truth. Here’s one line that you shared.

And this piece was out on Twitter. So you can and it’s also been put up. I put it up yesterday at a website that I’ve started called johofth.com, but it’s brilliant. And once the one line you say is a ruling class is corrupt, inept, and pathological. In the upside-down world, they’ve built What’s bad is good, adversaries or partners, and terrorism is not only acceptable but estimable.

Estimable. I think I’m saying that right.

General Michael Flynn: No. Right. That’s right.

Joe Hoft: That word up, by the way. And, brilliant piece. So How do we make any sense out of all that’s going on?

General Michael Flynn: Well, let me let me, let me kind of set a landscape here. I think that’s important. So today is starting at noon, Eastern Standard Time. There will be a historic vote for the next speaker of the House of the United States of America. This is a big deal 3rd in line to the presidency.

I think it’s Mike Johnson who’s going to be, you know, nominated, and there may be other people who are nominated. I think Mike Johnson, if he becomes speaker of the house, which I firmly believe he will win, will be, you know, another sort of nail in the coffin of the uni-party, of the United States. And the uni-party is this this this combination of Democrats and Republicans and the establishment and the and the lobbyists and the media you know, this is a death knell on behalf of we the people that are going to send a message across Washington, DC, that the American people have had enough and there are some steps and maybe we can we have time. I can talk about what I think the first steps ought to be for Mike Johnson to take as a speaker. But let’s just put that aside for a second.

Now let’s focus on, you know, right here at home, we have not only and we’ve seen this since the attack on Israel, So we’ve seen in our own country, we have a problem with, Hamas, Hezbollah, radical Islam, and support to radical Islam, and that’s part of you know, that word estimable that I use, it’s like you have to be able to understand and estimate what kind of threats you have within your own, you know, within the terrain that you currently occupy. And in this case, it’s the, it’s the United States of America. So we have a threat inside of our country that has been exacerbated over the last 2 years with almost 10,000,000 new illegal immigrants coming into this country. And I heard numbers as high as 12,000,000, and we know that there are tens of 1000 probably in the ballpark of a couple of 100,000, mostly military-age men who have come from these adversarial nations, these nations that we have identified as terrorist havens, right? North Africa, the Middle East,, East Africa, and other parts of the world this is not just happening in Southern Israel against this group called Hamas.

This is going to happen right here at home, and there is a large contingent of these organizations right here in the United States of America, they’re well represented, they’re well-funded, and they’re well led. And they have direct ties into our white house, into our Pentagon, and, our secretary or into our State Department. And, you know, some people should know that these elements, these people a person on the National Security Council, a person over in the Department of Defense and the envoy, the the senior diplomat has had had his security clearance removed, not suspended, but removed, and the guy’s been taken off the line. This is historic. And the media doesn’t want to cover it because I call these probably spy rings.

These are probably spy rings inside of our government working with this administration. Some of these people were a part of the Obama administration. I mean, this is a threat right here at home. So let’s put that on the side. Now let’s jump over to the Middle East.

We have 2 carrier strike forces which represents I’ll just say, you know, let’s just say roughly 2020, surface vessels, probably more than that because we’ve got aircraft. We’ve got the surface vessels, and we have subsurface vessels meaning summaries. Those are those that are being positioned out in the Eastern Mediterranean. And when those are there and on station and in a relatively safe place because they’re got to have to be positioned in a place where they’re out of range of Iranian missiles and the Iranian missiles can range well beyond Israel. So If we have ships at sea sitting in the eastern med, the Iranian Iranians right now because we’ve allowed it.

We’ve enabled it with funding. They have missiles, long-range missiles that can range well beyond Israel east into the eastern Med. The United States of America has already been engaged in this war in the Middle East. This new emerging war, which is much more physical and then, then what we have, you know, seen and what the American people have experienced over the last 20, let’s say, where we have now shot down as many as 8 of these long-range missiles. It sounds like they have been fired from Yemen. Right?

So for the other day, I think the last 48 hours are another four. So these missiles that are being fired from Yemen are part of this Houthi rebel organization that is directly supported by Iran. Iran-backed organizations inside of Iraq have directly attacked US forces at Al Assad air base, which is in Iraq, and also US forces, over in Syria. And I think the numbers that I’ve seen, and I, you know, I haven’t had an update this morning yet in terms of, whether they’ve been killed in action, but I think that we’ve had at least 24 US service members wounded in action by these Iranian backed forces you know, that are sitting in legitimate, well known, and well established US bases on, of course, in Iraq, on their soil and in Syria, and the Syrians know that they’re there. And we also now have pressure points against Israel from the north, which is Hezbollah from the northeast, which is the Syrian border.

There’s a small sliver of border. It’s a pretty large sliver of border. And historians have at least 66, maneuver brigades, big, you know, brigades. I would say only one of them is worth the dam, but there’s still a significant force there and then of course Hamas, you know, in the southern zone. We had at least 30 Americans and the number might be higher than that.

It might be as many as 33 Americans killed in action during this, during this surprise attack by Hamas. We still have Americans being held hostage. Never mind the sheer scale of the of the Israelis that were killed in action and still have 100 in being held hostage and the brutality, the rape, murder, beheading, dismembering of children, you know, women and elderly, done by these savages. So, we’re talking about a framework, Joe, and I call it globalism versus Americanism because America is the last readout of hope for humanity on this planet. And the globalists, they do exist.

And the globalists, they come in an economic alliance as well as a military alliance. And that economic alliance started with the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa in their latest conference, which happened about a month ago. They got 7 new nations to join the BRICs. Those 7 plus the 5 that I just mentioned, represent about 75% of the world’s population. 5 The 5 Bricks nations represent about 47 to 50 percent of the global population on the planet.

So, you added these other 7 nation-states. So the economic component of this, Joe, and for your audience is that they want to move, and they’re going to move very rapidly to a central bank digital currency. China and Russia are already trading in this commodity. They, in the last probably 72 hours. We’ve seen 14 I think it’s $14,000,000,000 of US treasury bonds sold from Russia and China back then and when they start to sell, it’s like, you know, you buy low and you sell high. Right? So, they’re high now because they know they’re about to collapse, and they’ve got to move to the central bank digital currency.

Where they’ve got to be trading on it with a different set of commodities. This is where that whole world of precious metals comes in, you know, gold and silver as an example. The US dollar is the currency of choice. We’ll potentially go out the door, and I don’t mean that hyperbolically. I don’t mean that.

I mean that realistically because this is what the BRIC nations have been talking about for a long time. Frankly, our government, Joe Biden, signed Executive Order 14067. People can go look it up. Executive order 14067 about a year and a half ago, and it went into effect last December. So, you know, again, you know, this is not Mike Flynn, you know, going off the wall on conspiracy theory. Go read that stuff.

Executive Order 14067. That’s the economic alliance. Now the military alliance, which is what we’ve got to face in the Middle this is where we’ve got to be careful because once you get drawn into it, it’s chaos and it takes on a life of its own and you cannot predict the consequences of an action. Here’s what we call action, reaction, and counteraction in warfare, action, reaction, counteraction, and you always have to have a series of plans and strategies to be able to deal with each scenario. So now the military side of this alliance is Russia, China, China, at the league, and, and Iran in that part of the world.

And now there are others. I mentioned Yemen. There are East African nations. There are North African nations. Some countries used to be in an alliance with the United States. I would say that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is one that I would hold suspect.

If I were sitting in the Oval Office or as a national security adviser, I’d be picking up the phone and talking to the leadership of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and say, you know, do you stand with you still stand with the United States of America? In this regard, we don’t have that kind of competency, nor do we have those types of relationships in our white house right now. We have to look at countries like Qatar. We have to look at countries like Kuwait. That whole part of the region.

We also have to look at countries like Turkey. Turkey is now one of the alliance countries of the BRICs. Turkey is another country with Erdogan. Erdogan has stepped in recently and he is trying to weigh in to act as the sort of protector, if you will, of the Middle East and, wants to try to be the guy that leads to some sort of cease-fire or peace agreement that is brutal. So, let me take you down this path right now and just lay out a scenario that I will talk about. And to a degree, you know, what I imply in that article that you bring up.

You know, a scenario could be where it looked. Let’s say that this thing that happened in Israel was well-planned, well-led, well-resourced, and hidden. Right? But let’s say that it was a setup and it was meant to have an impact, but the impact now was far, far greater than what those who planned it meant for it to be. That’s the nature of warfare.

Okay? That’s how combat operates in a very, very chaotic way once it begins. And the psychological effect of man on the battlefield when he’s when he becomes in this in the case of these guys, bloodthirsty, you know, it changes the dimension and it changes the nature of the war. So let’s just say that there was some type of setup here. And I don’t, you know, I don’t know.

I’m speculating a little bit, but you know, I do believe that the security system of Israel broke down so badly that it had to have been somebody that caused that, and that somebody had to be inside. They had to be inside. There’s no way in the world that I’ll believe any other thing only because I’ve walked the fence line of the Gaza Strip. So Let’s fast forward to what are the responses of the White House right now. This is not just about the Middle East folks.

To your audience. This is right here. This is directly going to affect the United States of America. I don’t I can’t tell you I’m not gonna sit here and tell you that there’s not got to be some, and it’s one of the things for the new speaker. If Mike Johnson becomes a speaker, he ought to demand President Biden come in immediately and give a State of the Union and specifically talk about the issues in Ukraine.

What are we doing with the $200,000,000,000? Why do we need another $100,000,000, which said we shouldn’t be paying $100,000,000 for the Middle East? We don’t know. I mean, the Gaza Strip is a mess. We’ve spent 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 dollars in there, and it’s a mess.

It is a racket. It is an absolute racket. The United States of America right now needs new leadership. We need strong leadership. We need bold courageous leadership.

We need to be able to look at the world, take a big step back, and say, okay, we’re, you know, we’re in charge now. We are going to take care of our home. We’re going to take care of America first. We can juggle other balls. We can juggle what’s happening in Europe.

We can juggle what’s happening in the Middle because we’re there, Joe, whether we like it or not if let’s say, you know, Donald Trump comes back in 2024, That’s fine, and that’s good. It’s great for the country, but we’re there. We are there already in these messes that this administration has created the mess on the border, the mess in our streets of America with the rising crimes, the horrific, application of economic principles that are killing this country The war in the Middle East that’s been perpetuated, I believe, by the people that are in the white house right now. We have a spy network that’s in I’ve I said it. We have a spy network that’s in the Pentagon that’s in the state department and it’s in the national security council.

That has to be rooted out. We have this war in, in Eastern Europe, and I think that we’re being played. I think the United States of America is being played as a fool. Over in Eastern Europe. Be you know, and all the while, again, China.

So, I’ll stop here and take a breath and maybe throw back to you if you have any questions, but China at the end of the day is benefiting the most. China is benefiting the most. She is sitting there in the catbird seat, and he’s looking at the economic conditions. He’s looking at the military conditions, he’s looking at the demise of the United States of America as is Putin. Now Putin and Russia they’re always on the rocks.

They have a nation. They have a population in decline. They have their problem with radical Islam on their southern frontiers. The Russian frontiers of their southern states like Chechnya, Dagestan, and the Central Asian Republic. Those are rising Islamic states, and they are going to crush the population of Russia in probably the next 10 years.

China has accelerated its plan. They sort of had a 100-year plan that would be roughly 2049, several years ago, China accelerated that plan. They just had another meeting among the CCP to accelerate it even more. So, I think that China is going to accelerate its 100-year plan. And they’ve been doing, and it’s and it’s been on track.

Xi is a big part of it. And they’ve got to accelerate it and try to achieve it by, like, 2030. So we’re looking at the next 5 or 6 years, certainly between now and 2035, where if the United States doesn’t get it shipped together excuse my Irish. If we don’t get our act together, and we don’t get strong leaders in the White House, strong leaders in the rest of ours, at least the executive branch of our government, to root out these problems that we have inside our government and root out this corruption and this criminal behavior and this unacceptable direction that we are being taken as a nation, then I’m afraid that, you know, if we come to 2024, the outcome is the same as 2020, you know, then then, you know, it’s Katie bar of the door. I mean, again, it’s now up to anybody who wants to speculate about that outcome.

And it’s not a positive one. If we don’t get ourselves back on the America First train, And America first, I want to remind everybody, Joe. Remind your audience. America First is not a Donald Trump Bumper sticker. Make America Great Again as a Donald Trump bumper sticker.

America first has been around for a long time by people who believed in our constitution. I mean, when I say a long time, it’s been around for like 100 years. People who believed in our constitution believed in America, believed in the idea of America’s first values and principles, and the constitutionality of what it is that we, that we have is the sort of the framework of our country, you know, and this sort of very ugly experiment of democracy, which democracy, like, you know, I wrote down that, you know, if this is a Winston Churchill quote, which is a great one, and I always go back to it. Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried. You know? And when and that was after World War 2, right?

And he’s right about that. And what we’ve got to see play out. So back to, back to today, this very, very historically significant day that starts in about another hour in the halls of Congress where we are got to choose a speaker of the house and that’s not one of the establishment uni-party RINOs in this case. Right? But Mike Johnson’s choice or Mike John Johnson’s acts.

Like, so he doesn’t have that much time. We’ve run out of time, but it’s okay because we’re cleaning our house up, right? America first. So one of the first things that I would recommend to Mike Johnson is that I would recommend that he immediately bring in demand. Demand that the president of the United States come in and do a State of the Union, and he can.

He can do that. And do a State of the Union immediately on what is the state of play for the United States of America? Are we going to World War 3 or not? You know, do we need to be thinking about declaring World War 3? What are we doing?

Right? Number 1. Number 2, I would bring into probably the oversight committee or maybe a combination of oversight, the judiciary in the intel community, I would bring in the national security adviser, the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, and I would bring in the, probably somebody like you know, one of our maybe the chairman of the joint chiefs. Right? I would bring them under oath in Congress and not in front of those committees and if I were Mike Johnson as the speaker, I would be the chairman of that committee.

Do it publicly and put these people under oath and ask them specifically What the hell is going on? And grill them. And I mean, grill them, you know, bring them in for a couple of days. Don’t and don’t do this backdoor stuff. Do it under the lights in public and let these good people that we have in Congress who we do have some, you know, of course, they’re the folks on the left, they’re got to try to make it sound like, you know, we’re off the rails.

We’re not. This is what we, the people, expect our leaders to do hold these people accountable. Hold them accountable. So I would do that simultaneously. Demand a state of the union by the president of the United States, and I would bring at least those couple of people, into, into the house for, testimony under oath you know, I say under the lights, you know, basically in public and, and run it for a couple of days.

Run it like you’re running a jury trial and the jury is we the people. Right? That’s what needs to happen. And I mean, it needs to happen, like, immediately. Forget about vacations.

Forget about weekends. And forget about Thanksgiving. If that’s what it is if that’s what it’s got to take to get this country back on the rails that we need to be on, which is moving towards a system of government that we can be proud of. I mean, you know, and you and I have had long conversations about elections. I haven’t even touched elections yet.

Election integrity or election security, which I, you know, I have a huge, huge passion for. I, you know, I don’t care. I mean, I do care. As you know, the outcome of an election shouldn’t be decided by cheating. It should be decided by the fairness of our election system, we’re the United States of America, and we’re like a 3rd world, 4th world country when it comes to our election. So anyway, you know, I could go on and on.

I appreciate the time to come on and talk with you and your audience. And like I said, The Gateway Pundit, you, Joe Hoft, have been just a terrific part of the American fabric to bring truth, you know, to the powers that be and then challenge them. And I think, you know, I think you guys you know, you’re you’ve you take a clear stand. Everybody knows where you’re where you stand, but you still report, you know, in a very determined way you know, in an honest way, the truth. And I think that’s what the American people and that’s why the American people have turned to the gateway pundit.

That’s why the American people have turned to some of these other outlets out there because frankly they don’t trust the media, and we don’t trust the institutions of government.

Joe Hoft: Yeah. Absolutely. Well, thank you, sir, so much. And what a great, that was just one of the marvelous presentations on what’s going on right now, and I appreciate it so much. I know I know you gotta get going, but, yeah, we’re doing a lot of work on election integrity.

I’ve got a group that we’ve mentioned to you before too. That’s moving forward, and we are got to figure out a way to save this next election because, without a free and fair election, we don’t have a and you’ve done more than maybe anybody in this country to ensure that that’s the case. So thank you for all you do and this incredible presentation today. I appreciate it.

General Michael Flynn: Alright, Joe. God bless. Thank you very much to your audience. Thank you and thank, you know, for all the Americans out there. Stand up, step up, and speak up.

Now’s the time. Alright? God bless.

Joe Hoft: Thanks so much. And we’ll be right back here on the Joe Hoft Show.